Mehr erfahren. Every teeny speck. does stick to some and not to others. A second coat might result in a deeper tone at the end - though it seemed like the second coat was just dissolving the first. Work in a well-ventilated area. I guess it is more of a brown color but it is darker in my mind than I expected. Adding sticking, so don’t use it. And the General Finishes is way easier to use then Minwax ... texture and drying time are better. That probably gave it more working time. It should get here in a week. I have tried just about everything but a second coat which I will do today. Additional stain As celticmoon said this really only works when going very dark. I really like the look of 2 painted on coats of GF gel paint, but its sooooo dark chocolate colour (brown mahogany gel stain), but we really just want a medium colour as our kitchen can be dark...(and DH is scared of drastic change I might add). One thing he noticed is that the poly finish on our cabinets is very thin in many areas and comes off completely with a very light sanding. • Milk Paint. Brush stain on heavily with bristle or foam brush, (6/08 Add: I'm now (18 months later) seeing some wear near the pulls on the most used cabinets. When dry brushing on lightly, dry time will be The coats will need to dry for about 24 hours, so figure that each section of the kitchen will be doorless for 4 or 5 days. 2. OK if that is the look you want, bad if you want something that actually looks like stained wood cabinets and not painted cabinets. . I would not recommend the Polyshades. Especially celticmoon. No comparison between the two. This solution also prepares the existing It does stick to some and not to others. Best of all, my husband is excellent with tile and he has some nice Florida Tile "Brun" 18x18 tiles that a friend gave him. Yes, this takes a couple days to coat, dry, recoat, dry, etc but you may discover that the Java alone does the trick and this will save you a LOT of work. PS I think Ill leave the back of that first cabinet as is, it will be worth a good laugh in the future. I didnt want to go "soap opera" on this but I cant help but get emotional. Your kitchen situation sounds a lot like mine was.Before: After:I have posted a way long 'how to' a bunch of times here. I had over 60 pieces (big kitchen) AND island sides and book shelves, etc and I admit I lost steam partway through. I'm mystified. General Finishes HP Poly and/ or Crystalac Polyoxide. Coat, General Finishes Dark Chocolate So, some people were told by a repair man to avoid powder because it doesn’t dissolve well in cold water & will build up in the bottom of the drum. 1. This may feel a little bit like spreading thick ketchup and will appear very uneven, which is fin… Close the tin so it doesn't get contaminated. I could control the color so much better with a paint and the prep would be the same, if not less. I dont want a "grainy" wood look which is why I was drawn to the gel stain. Use newspaper or plastic to protect the surface and floor. • It Thanx, Minwax. He has always said that our cabinets are "builder grade" junk and the only option is to replace them when we can afford it. darker color. between coats. Not that I didnt think celticmoons cabinet makeover would work, I really wanted that to succeed. It has a "distressed" look (to match the look on my face). My goal has never been dark cabinets, but rather a rich medium brown (think warm walnut) that still allows the wood to show through. Yes, but be advised the Gel stain is not a floor coating. Install your hardware.The feel of the finish should be wonderful, really smooth and satiny. I pretty much followed the instructions in this thread and the results were very good. I didn't - and did the same as he did, going with the Minwax. (Thread may still be around as that Forum moves slowly.) Collect and store them in a bucket of water as you go and then dispose of them all properly. finishes the same way; just make sure to experiment on the back side, not the When I look at pictures of your cabinets and celticmoons cabinets, I see a deep rich brown and my second sample is black. edges with blue painter’s tape; also remove or tape off any hardware as the gel If you have ugly cabinets and want a stained look rather than paint use General Finishes gel stain. However, I did use General Finishes gel stain and topcoat. 1. If the Maybe take a couple days, a couple coats, and see how it looks then after a topcoat? I hope I am being clear that the gel fix works only with a very dark outcome goal. But from what Ive read durability shouldnt be an issue and touch-ups are easy. Search engine isn't pulling it up, so with apologies for the repetition here's more than you need to know: It is a very doable project. Log In. I tried to stain the pine before - used paint stripper and sanded for days - but found that it didn't work on the veneer siding on the island and sides of the cabinets and so opted to paint. more, you should be good to go. Anyways, I am determined to do this and I will start keeping a photo journal. I know paint, believe me. Keep have to make sure all fingerprints are wiped and evened out on both sides It looked nice but more like paint. I'm going to give the GF gel stain a try although my hubby already bought a can of Polyshades. I didn't mean to be so negative. He also said that you have quality cabinets that are worth the effort but ours are not. He wants to please me and that's all it takes. Just tell DH he set the bar high with his beautiful floors and your friends here at GW are steering you straight. I'd like to try the same thing with an old oak vanity. So I end up with a dark ring around that center panel if I try to wipe off any of the gel stain. I painted the cabinets (pine) from the beige stain that they had before to a darker brown, but it was not the look I wanted (looks too much like mud for my taste - not sure how to add a picture yet). I guess staining is more of an art than a "procedure" ... so any tips on getting an even coat? base top coats to finish later, use the. PS I live in Frozen Tundra country and could have warned you about Favre. Im tempted to throw my can of gel stain at his stupid truck. Repeat with Java gel. The GF gel stain will likely work for you as long as 1) you get the surfaces clean and smooth, and 2) you are OK going very dark, e.g. but here's a couple pics. Much more even color here after two coats. If you are using water First I tried Minwax Polyshades. NOTE: The cloth or socks used for the gels are very flammable! Handi Painter applicator. ***First do a trial on the back of a door and check if Java coats alone suffice. before letting it dry. Wait for the second coat to judge if the color is deep enough for you. ft, so this was more than enough for my little 4×5 bathroom. Im not looking for perfection but I just can not stand those cabinets any longer. Not so if your wood is traditionally stained. It looks gorgeous to me and I really enjoy the space - how it sits all quiet, clean and serene, then gets all crazy with the food and folks du jour. I wore disposable plastic gloves and slid an old sock on one hand. If the color is being removed when Just a little and I am sorry I wasted all this good information from gardenweb members. After any of these techniques you can pad the stains out while still slightly PREPARATION:Take off doors and drawer fronts. It was dry to the touch in about six hours. I just want something other than paint to give them an updated look. 2-3 coats of Java. I really thought it would work but I should have known that my husband would never agree with this kind of "quick fix". I could gold plate our cabinets but he would still replace them when we can afford it because they are "junk". Just trying to save you both that step. It is durable, less smelly, has a lower content of volatile organic compounds (VOCs), and dries much faster. It is best to cover any glass with paper that is cut to size, and tape the The second door certainly does look grey/black. coats will give a darker color. I had veneer and recesses... although maybe this is a darker look than what you're going for: Sorry my pics are so large. Then I tried building up layers of Polyshades, that went on so translucently that by the time I got to the color I wanted, there was sticky residue in every corner. or plastic to lean against, as it will stain. out the top and bottom first, wiping with the grain, and then wipe the vertical • sides. I am new here. How to Use Oil Base Gel Stain Over Existing Finishes. My doors are much like tntw' s doors shown in one of the posts above. If you are having Maybe I am not reading you right, but were you trying to get there with one coat? And at that stage, darker at the crevices would be really obvious. I really want to do this on my own, I feel like such a naggy b*tch. General Finishes Design Center Toggle navigation. Alison, The picture above is before the final two coats of clear General Finishes poly and was slightly shinier than I wanted. My new back door was sealed with shellac, then stained with Olympic "Merlot" (liquid) then sealed with shellac, then glazed with Java gel stain for an antiqued effect, then shellacked, then top-coated with gel varnish. Handi Painter applicator. cleaning solution, and scrub surface to make sure any contaminates, such as wax Used just Java to get the color right, then a bunch of top coats. carpet. Not everyone It’s especially nice to work with because of its consistency and coverage. Minwax is crap, at least for nice oak floors like you have). Wet a brush with mineral spirits to even out any areas, such as corners both /all approaches can be terrific . )* Then one lightly brushed on coat of a 1:2mix of GF Walnut gel stain and Polyshades in Honey Satin. Dab the stained area, blending and smoothing out any heavy lines. Of course if you are worried about the final poly coat being thinned and not as strong then you could always do a clear top coat and i might. General Finishes Gel Stains or Water Based Stains usually will perform very well because they are more topical than traditional liquid oil stains, and contain more colorants. or oil, are cleaned off the surface. When the brush becomes full, wipe off excess on rags. If you mess up, use a So now hes thinking it might be best to go ahead and sand down to bare wood and "do it right" although he is concerned that about the oak veneer panels in the middle or our doors not taking stain well. So the second door basically has the gel stain "painted" on in a pretty thin coat. )(9/09 Add: Never did bother to touch up those couple spots. Carpet may discolor if cleaned with mineral spirits. Glove up. Never again! From the mudroom or an island or desk? Kitchen looks great. Its not a bad look, just not what I was after. Now a picture of the back of another door. So Im a little puzzled. . minimum of 48 hours for each coat. It "puddles" at the transition between the recessed panel and the oak frame. several dry brushes or rags handy for Long ago when I was young and stupid I properly stripped acres of woodwork in an old Victorian. have to make sure all fingerprints are wiped and evened out on both sides Finished table with three coats of Rustoleum on base and Minwax weathered oak stain on top Before and after of heavily stained pew using Rustoleum chalked paint General Finishes Milk Paint Project. White floor trim w white doors vs stained floor trim hardwood doors. Perfect your own technique. I was so sure that would work for me. If you have raised panels, start with the inside panel first, as it Brush stain on by using the stain sparingly and basically dry brushing it chemical-resistant. The darker you go, the less color variation is a problem. Still translucent, but so much deeper in color than regular Polyshades so only one coat was required to achieve the perfect brown for me. Wipe off excess with clean T-shirt material. just looked again to see the white plantation shutters and white stone tops and what appears to be a very contemporary tile backsplash - there are a lot of elements here, so unifying some in the kitchen - whether with white paint or a color finish shift on the stain - would be a good choice. Dry time is one of your most crucial steps. I wish I could come over and figure this out with you...so strange that the color looks so bad in the first picture and so black in the second... Only suggestion I have is to try a couple coats. Apply On, Wipe Off Method, • My favorite t-shirt in these parts sez: We'll never forget you, Brent. will take more time to wipe or brush out. That was the answer. Apply more coats to even color and get the depth Additional stain To test, apply gel stain, let dry for 48 hours, and then try to scratch it off. We're not planning to replace the cabinets ever. Join Our Newsletter Design ... after you apply the stain, and then wipe the rest off. I really wanted to bash that truck of his, but, in the end I just couldnt do it. So I switched to powder. It is best to cover any glass with paper that is cut to size, and tape the Ill give everyone updated. Thanks Projectsneverend for posting your pix... helps to see others have done this successfully. What surprised me the most was the difference in quality between the Minwax Gel Stain and the General Finishes Gel Stain. coats will give a darker color. (Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions here - just trying to figure this out!). How To Dry Pad Stain To Blend. Dry off excess liquid with a paper towel. Product Details. little color to areas that have been damaged and down to raw wood or to touch Side by Side comparison of GF Gray, Black, Antique Walnut, Java and Brown Mahogany Gel Stains. If stain dries, it will be very hard to clean off any surface, clothes or The Minwax Interior Gel Stain is easy to apply. trouble wiping off evenly, or the gel stain is getting sticky, work on smaller For • Now that the back has been dry for 24-48 hours, flip over and move to the I sanded off the ugly varnish and used a staining sponge. Satin finishes can have a pearl touch to them. Ill use some stainless hardware which should create a very contemporary look. Prepare existing surfaces first by cleaning well. It seems everyone has used something different. gel is dry and needs to be removed, it can be sanded back off after it has been I tried applying it on my kitchen doors and the color stain significantly enhanced the look. I would drive 100 miles to use GF gel over Polyshades. So, should I try another brand of gel stain? It just isn't worth the massive work and toxicity unless the cabinets are something special. desired look, and you let it dry long enough between coats before applying And later the clear gel top coat also impacts the look and the feel, enriches the whole thing. If you want your project to look like a Boy Scout woodcraft attempt gone horribly wrong, use Polyshades. • No way your DH could have known that. It was a long and very satisfying night and I will get my new cabinets. The other half is what the contractor gave us (horrible job, terrible color and glossy finish!). As long as it gives you the Hard to brush on neatly, then gummy, then seemed to leave a sticky tacky residue. Replacing them is not an option now but likely in 5 or 6 years. Bugging me a bit more, and I will get to it soon. The darker half has been stained by me (no top coat yet)... 2 coats of Java. He says, Ill get to it, blah blah. I considered new doors but that still meant a lot of money. When brushing on heavy, dry time will be longer; let dry 48 hours The grain does show through but i want that. *= messier). Then trolling in a kitchen emporium showroom this last year I noticed dark wood slab doors, kind of like mine, but darker. Sorry you're having a hard time, but before you disappear into the bedroom ;D , which brand of gel stain did you use tonight? Milk Paint. Wow. Keep Here are some pics...I'm torn because my floor has some brown in it. just to clarify, I wouldn't try to match the mahogany casework . . It gives a nice and unique espresso colored finish. But for the kitchen I don't want it to have that built up finish look. Carpet may discolor if cleaned with mineral spirits. And we had 3 cabinet doors drying in our basement and they all looked liked ___. My first coat, I was not loving AT ALL. Let it dry another day, and then Dicey product. You just need time, $50 in supplies, and patience. Get a better stain! Wink. Just enough to break the finish and give it some tooth, no more than a minute a door. Now I must redo this but I want to do it right and only once more. Stir the stain to reincorporate solids that have settled to the bottom of the can. I did not wipe off after waiting a period of time. If you are applying gel over another finish you need to clean the surface well When using a liquid stain, wipe it off quickly for an even finish, as liquid stains dry quickly. I seriously doubt you will see color differences ("a glazed look") if yours end up as dark as mine. Quart of each was more than enough for my 60 doors and drawer fronts and goes for $12-14 at Rockler. dry. Couldn't you order the General Finishes product online? This has one coat of gel stain wiped on and evened out with a foam brush. I heard General Finishes is a good product but I have to travel almost 30 miles to get it. 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Apply a second coat to fill in color and give more depth. Wipe with tack cloth or a slightly damp rag (water) to remove dust, and let At least, it looks like me and my man will be sleeping in the same bed tonight. Skip to main content. Now I've tried it again and can't believe the trouble I'm having. • Let items dry 24-48 hours. To protect the Gel Stain, you will need to Top Coat it after the Gel Stain completely dries with a suitable floor finish. I have tried everything with the gel stain, quick wipe on - wipe off, longer wait time followed by wipe off, no wipe off, all applied in every way conceivable; sock, foam brush, and a good quality paint brush. Mineral spirits and steel wool can be used for cleaning as This second coat is Just scuff it a bit. before letting it dry. This is normally done if you want to add just a I have been practicing on a scrap cabinet sectioned off into small squares by blue tape, and for the past two months my fingers have been permanently stained brown. When dry brushing on lightly, dry time will be Color deep and rich - way nicer than that faded, beat 80's oak color. I wanted so very bad to stand back and look at my cabinets and say I did that. Wipe off the excess. This tones down the grain and seals the dryest parts while staying translucent. Do not wipe all the color off, or it will be hard to build color. Coat or Gel Stain and Arm-R-Seal Oil Base Top usually brushed on, and you can again wipe excess off or take the brush and dry It has a warmer tone to it. Very minimal color change and nowhere near the color shown on the can. As long as the gel is still wet you can remove the product. And what exactly did you do to the door before applying the gel stain? General Finishes focuses on state of the art water-base finishes and waterbourne coatings, and is the country's leader in waterbased finish technology offering wood stains, dye stains, top coats, gel stains, exterior wood finishes, liquid oilbase stains, water based lacquers furniture paint. The grain "popped" and I have to admit it does look much better. Both of the oak species took on a sort of Cerused look I’m very into. Try using screw drill bits on an electric drill if you don't have an electric screwdriver. Then he did a sample on some old red oak baseboard with a poly finish without any sanding or other preparation. FINISHING AND REASSEMBLY:I suggest you put the doors back up after one clear coat, then you can check everything over and darken an area with more Java if needed, followed by a clear coat. - John of John Harryman Designs This piece was entered into the Woodworking category of the 2016 GF Design Challenge Contest and won 3rd place. Previously I've used polyshades on a few projects with good results. * First a good cleaning with a green scrubbing pad and cleaner. Its apples and oranges in his mind. 3- This is where I can't answer. Any way I have the same dilemia with the old orange cabinets and cannot afford to replace them as I have a whole house to do, including a full basement. Top Coats Over Gels For More Durability and Protection, JET BENCHTOP WOODWORKING TOOLS SAVE 15% + FREE SHIPPING, General Finishes Arm-R-Seal Oil Base Topcoats, General Finishes PolyAcrylic Water Base Top or oil, are cleaned off the surface. However, the color is black not the chocolate color of celticmoon's cabinets. $72 Water based high performance top coat General Finishes vs $48 Minwax Polycrylic Gallon ($24 difference over the course of multiple projects) Your time- say you spend 8 hours building a console table, you spend another 1-2 hour sanding it, and will spend 2 hours staining and finishing it (minus dry times) to do a proper job. The foam brush evened it out and sort of added a faux grain effect. If you use an aplucator pad OR old t-shirt (even better if your project is vertical) and pretend it's stain and use very light coats it will come out fine. 2. Right now, I have one coat on the back of a door that I let sit for around ten minutes and then completely wiped off. So I know it can be done, it just requires a little more technique. My only question is will the General Finishes product be that much different from the Minwax gel stain? My kitchen has the same Red Oak type cabinets (see my thread here) and we're trying to go dark with them (GF Gel Java). longer. brush over the entire area, working and evening the stain as you go. Plain with no crevices. He thinks he has just enough to do the counters and backsplash but it is still available so he can get any extra that he needs. They didn't even take the doors off to finish them!!! It looked like walnut. Refold material often to keep a dry area SETUP AND PLANNING:You will need a place to work and leave wet doors to dry overnight - I set up 2 spaces: garage for sanding/cleaning and basement for staining/sealing. . Going that dark is a risk but our kitchen is super bright with two south facing windows and a large bay window my husband put in a couple of years ago. Lately I’ve been considering trying persil the European detergent that has become available in the USA. I know I said that I don't like a "grainy" look but the result was much better than what I expected. wet. • On the frame of the door, apply stain on the whole frame and edges. Did you try multiple coats with the excess wiped off? I'm sure he'll want to wait until I finish completely the back of my sample door with a topcoat so he can check the durability. Might need to divide that up also, and stagger the work: doors/cabinets/doors/etc. I do like that a little of the old oak finish shows through and I believe its a better look than paint even though I am applying like paint, more or less. If you paint it on it looks like paint. Check that all areas are wiped out evenly on the back and side edges before In fact I got much better sample results than a local contractor who was bidding for the job. If it comes off easily, then it’s not How to Use Oil Base Gel Stain Over Existing Finishes, HOW TO: USE OIL BASE GEL STAINS OVER EXISTING FINISHES. The GF gel stain is so much better. $12.90. Theres a happy medium somewhere. Apply a second coat to fill in color and give more depth. I am jumping on the gel stain bandwagon. Figure out how you will prop doors to dry. This solution also prepares the existing But even if I did go too thick, how could it be any darker than the actual stain color? • 2. Dip a maroon Norton Non-Woven Sanding Pad into usually brushed on, and you can again wipe excess off or take the brush and dry Have you looked at the lighter gel stain, for example, nutmeg or candlelight? You may hear it called “java gel” or other names, but gel stains are made by several brands (including General Finishes and Minwax), … the center of the panel. . One pint covers 100 sq. I did a little searching on the web and the very dark "espresso" look for kitchen cabinets is kind of a rage. I just finished doing the back of one door. Do I feel guilty? into I didnt want to go that dark but its really not that much of a difference. Like Minwax® Wood Finish Stain, it is oil-based, so Gel Stain gives you a longer working time than do water-based stains before it starts to dry. Im not going to beat myself up over this, I had good intentions. In addition to this non-permeable surface factor, General Finishes Gel Stain is an oil-based product, and it is more difficult to obtain proper drying characteristics over a dense manufactured surface such as laminate. dry two hours, and then sand with, can be used for cleaning as Make sure on these types of surfaces to let them dry good and long, a If you apply and rub off it looks like stained wood but it will be a little more opaque because it mainly lays on top--but it evens out grain, imperfections, etc so is ideal for old cabinets. This is thicker and poly based (*not water cleanup! It just seemed impossible to get an even coat with Minwax stuff, it just smeared all over the place and I had brush marks if I tried to even it out with a brush. There are many ways to use this gel stain. I'm a complete convert to gel stain (in its place) since about 1997. It would be tragic to do all this work with a less than ideal product. If he cant do a project using the best materials and products, its not worth the effort. use General Finishes PolyAcrylic Water Base Top And is there anything better than angry sex? Prepare existing surfaces first by cleaning well. It could possibly be used to disguise yellowing.The way to get stain even in the corners of recessed panels is to cover the blade of a putty knife in a rag and pull excess out of the corner. Always make sure to blend any areas that connect. damp. And, of course, my husband wont even consider granite until we replace the cabinets first. Again, the GF gel stain is completely different from the Polyshades. Minwax 61500444 Pre Stain Wood Conditioner, 1 Quart,Clear. But the finish had gone orange and ugly, with the oak graining too busy for me. 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